OxyNEO – Comes to Canada
Controversial drug manufacturer Purdue Pharma has on the 27 October sent to the medical regulator of Newfoundland and Labrador an advice that it will be phasing out the opioid analgesic OxyContin ER and replacing it with OxyNEO.
OxyNEO is still oxycodone, still the same old Oxy that has been on the prescription drug market since 1996 as a safe, time release narcotic painkiller.
The facts behind the controversy about continued OxyContin use today include :
that prescription drug deaths have doubled between 1991, and 2004, mainly due to an increase in the use of narcotics for pain relief,
oxycodone related deaths rose by 500% after the introduction of the drug to the Toronto drug formulary in the year 2000,
oxycodone prescriptions, issued by medical doctors, rose by 850% between 1991 and 2004
oxycodone related deaths rose by 41% after it was added to the drug formulary in 2000,
most people dead from Oxy overdose had a receieved a prescription from their doctor within one month prior to death,
most people dead from Oxy overdose died accidentally from administration of a single opioid, and did not suicide, nor die from poly-drug use as many authorities suggest.
see article http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryweapons44.htm
In 2007, Oxy manufacturer Purdue Pharma settled a prosecution for false advertising of OxyContin. The issue was not whether or not OxyContin is addictive at prescription dose – like all narcotics, OxyContin is addictive.
The issue was that a misrepresention of the drug effects, by means of a time line graph, claimed OxyContin to be a safe time release preparation, when in fact it was not.
Although Purdue paid a massive fine of over $600 million, no one was actually punished, or identified as having been responsible for creating the misleading advertising upon which OxyContin gained access the prescription drug market in the first place.
Purdue being under pressure to do something about its prescription killer drug, in April 2010 released OxyNeo in the USA, a “harder to tamper with product”, that determined users have no difficulty in treating by various methods, to ensure that they can obtain the full strength of the oxycodone in one immediate hit.
Oxy deaths, needless to say, have continued to increase.
If the new OxyNeo was such an effective barrier to Oxy abuse, one would think that Canadian authorities would have approved it for use in Canada straight away. In fact, since OxyNeo was first introduced to the market, in early 2010, it has taken Canadian authorities until August 2011 to approve it.
Now the medical regulators for Newfoundland and Labrador are asking Purdue when the “new” drug, OxyNEO will become available to the Canadian market, and Purdue, although not committing to a time, has said that they will phase it in. Anyone who thinks that Canada is about to get some safer, new wonder drug in the form of OxyNeo will be disappointed to realize that it is only the same US product that has been around since April 2010.
Anyone who thinks that Canada has missed the boat, in limiting its consideration of pain relief options to an evaluation of the “new” OxyContin might very well be right.
Sure, we all have a need for pain relief, but why do we have to use drugs?
The error of current public thinking and funding in the field of pain management is an apparent belief that the body is a helpless thing, crippled up in it’s pain that needs the white knight pharmaceutical industry to provide it with an array of painkilling drugs. Nothing could be further from the truth, than believing that we need to administer toxic chemicals into the body to achieve pain relief.
Not many people realize that all drugs are toxic to the body, which is why there are side effects – side effects are the poisonous effects of the drugs that we use, on organs of the body, other than the principle “target”.
Not many people understand that there is a large psychosomatic component to the experience of pain. Depression, tension, and fear exacerbate the intensity of pain, whereas optimism, relaxation and being tension free will rapidly reduce pain if not eliminate it completely.
If people use natural methods to gain for themselves antidepressant effects, and develop techniques to enhance the production of natural endocrine pain relief there are simply no adverse side effects, and the natural healing potential of the body is encouraged and enhanced, instead of being depleted, as it is by synthetic drugs.
Our persistent use and insistence upon need for pharmaceutical drugs is due to a lack of public awareness of alternative pain treatment methods, and the conditioning of our society towards a belief that drugs are a superior method of pain relief compared with the natural capacity of the body.
Medical research strives daily to produce more effective and specific drugs to treat disease, disorder and pain. Drugs in the body contribute to the inability of the body to repair and restore itself to optimal health.
Drug free natural support for the body, that enables true recovery from disease, disorder, pain and addiction is ultimately the way to go.
The more we continue to use and place reliance on drugs such as OxyNEO the more we will continue to suffer from chronic pain and disorders of body and mind.
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All of this nonsense about Oxycontin is ridiculous.
First of all, the major increases in deaths that they are speaking about started in a period after the drug was added to the Toronto drug formulary. You’ll notice that I didn’t say “deaths attributed to Oxycontin.” In approximately 45% of these deaths the official cause of death was listed as suicide or “no definitive cause. Therefore, attributing these deaths to the drug Oxycontin is not only incorrect but it’s downright stupid.
The increase also did not start until the drug was added to the Toronto formulary meaning that you now have the drug in the hands of people who are desperately poor and far more likely to redirect the drug than people who had been prescribed the drug up until that point. Redirect, as in sell, and the end result being the drug ending up in the hands of junkies. Who do you suppose is involved in the highest percentage of drug overdoses? Junkies perhaps?
OxyNeo that is going to be distributed in Canada is not the exact same product as is being prescribed currently in the US. In the US BPA, yes that same BPA that causes cancer, is used in the formula as a bonding agent. In Canada BPA is classed as a toxic substance and therefore cannot be used in the OxyNeo that will be sold here.
I have already heard much talk from patients in the US stating that the new formula being prescribed is not nearly as effective in managing pain for some odd reason.
I suffer from Fibromyalgia and a chronic lower back issue and currently take both Oxycontin and Oxycodone to somewhat alleviate the constant pain that I am in. I have been on the same dose for about 1.5 years without an increase even though my pain levels have increased and I have developed a tolerance to the drugs.
Because of all of this ridiculous nonsense my doctor is now scared to increase my dosages for the fear that the government will somehow or for some reason target him as a result.
I am not alone in this position but family doctors being so hard to come by and the nature of my treatment involving narcotics, just what am I to do?
As there is no generic equivalent, Oxycontin had already made it to the list of approved painkillers for most insurance carriers in the US.
Most insurance companies in the US will only cover generic drugs on their plans and were were caught with their pants down when suddenly Oxycontin was being replaced with OxyNeo, that wasn’t on their approved as covered list, and many patients all of a sudden had no plan coverage for their medication. The patients were forced to either pay out of pocket, if they could, or switch to another pain medication that was most likely not as effective as Oxycontin.
The key factors that the Canadian/Provincial government authorities are missing is that chronic pain patients are the least likely to redirect or abuse their medications. We also do not become addicted to the medication and rather become dependent and tolerant.
These new guidelines/rules/laws that the government is developing and implementing will not do much, if anything, to decrease redirection and abuse but they will most certainly harm patients’ ability to manage their chronic pain or to be able to afford their medication if they have no coverage.
This is all so very wrong that it sickens me. Doctors are standing idly by and watching this happen. I was under the impression that “do no harm” was one of the credos of the medical profession so why are doctors not banding together to try and stop something that is going to harm their patients?
The bureaucracy is so mentally deficient that it is incapable, apparently, of managing the problems of drug redirection and abuse without harming the people who responsibly use their medications to improve the quality of their lives. In Ontario, our minister of health Deb Mathews, doesn’t have any background, training or education, in the medical field or health sciences yet there she is spearheading this bologna in my province. It’s maddening to say the least!
Chicken Little is running about screaming that the sky is falling and it’s Oxycontin’s fault. The government is unfortunately, and completely mistakenly, listening.
The idiot who wrote this article doesn’t even have the facts straight. Very rarely does a person overdose from a narcotic alone. In a study published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal in December 2009, (“Deaths related to the use of prescription opioids”) – the exact article that they are supposedly quoting for the above article – the article states “Most deaths related to the use of prescription opioids occur in conjunction with (i.e., are likely co-caused by) one or more nonprescription-opioid substances. In the case of oxycodone-related deaths in Ontario, 92% involved a non-opioid depressant of the central nervous system (e.g., alcohol, benzodiazepines, cyclic antidepressants or a combination of these).”
92% !!!! So, as long as you take your medication as prescribed – don’t mix it with Xanax, or a rum&coke, you’re going to be fine!!!
So, why does the above article state “most people dead from Oxy overdose died accidentally from administration of a single opioid, and did not suicide, nor die from poly-drug use as many authorities suggest.” This goes against what the CMAJ says – that 92% of people who died on narcotics died because they mixed their prescription with another depressant. If you’re going to write an inflammatory, slanderous article like this, at least get your facts straight!
Sure, it’s wonderful to blame “Big pharma” as the “drug pushers”. Do you know what happened in the US when Oxycontin’s formula was changed to make it less abusable? First, within a matter of days drug forums had instructions on how to defeat the new formula (drug users are a brilliant bunch of people). Secondly, oxycontin users switched to other narcotic drugs – Opana, Dilaudid, fentanyl. Thirdly, heroin use increased.
The real losers in this whole situation are the chronic pain patients. Many can’t get the pain relief they need because doctors are scared shitless to prescribe anything stronger than Tylenol3. To those of you rallying against the use of narcotics without knowing the “real” facts. The day will come when you or a loved one can’t get the pain relief you need because a doctor is too scared to prescribe a pain reliever to you, and I hope you think back to this ridiculous article you wrote and feel ashamed at yourself.
anyone who does oxys for any reason or any way other than prescribed is a frickin moron!!! period! if u abuse them, u deserve to die if your that stupid!
oxys should only be prescribed for terminal patients only!! if they werent given away like smarties on Halloween we wouldnt have such a pandemic on our hands, im so sick of almost everyone i know being hooked on them. Stop the fuckin madness and take em off the market already!!! or only give thme to those who are dying!!!
@joe mama…I’m not going to waste a lot of time on you. Although abusing oxycontin is not a good idea, wishing death on someone just makes you an absolute idiot, scumbag, piece of shit.
@john doe…There are many conditions that are not terminal but cause sufficient amounts of pain to warrant narcotic pain medication. In Canada they are not generally handed out like smarties as you suggest.It’s obvious from your post that you have no idea what you are talking about. Taking oxycontin off of the market will only force addicts on to another drug, that is a proven fact. The other result from taking it off of the market is that you will have people, like myself for example, that have legitimate medical conditions that require strong pain medication in order for them to lead a normal life. I’d be willing to bet that if you experienced the amount of pain that I do on a daily basis you would be curled up in the fetal position crying for your mommy.
You’re just another idiot without a clue, running your mouth when you should just be keeping your trap shut.
whatever, you are just here work pay taxes and die…that’s what the government wants you to do…God forbid if you do something you enjoy…alll they did is make people switch to heroin…i hate this fucking society….you think you are inthe land of the free? ya yest you are,, to work and give all the free loader your money…re egazmine things and truly look what you are free to do….past working paying taxes and behaving like e drone to feed the elite…go ahead do some thing that you are free to do that costs someone money…..you’re not free, there s no land of the free, its all bullshit and i hate it all. been born so i can work and so the government can steal my money, than the provincial can steal some more…than the municipal can steal some more….i mean really? fn bullshit. all you with your blinder on. And the people who wrote the article…have absolutely no idea about opiates. i’d like to see a disaster that seen 99% of people on this planet vaporize, i would like nothing more.
I would first like to address one of the silliest things I read in these comments which is that dependant and tolerant does not mean addicted. for the sake of ease I have used “thefreedictionary.com” to define addict for you.
ad·dict (-dkt)
tr.v. ad·dict·ed, ad·dict·ing, ad·dicts
1. To cause to become physiologically or psychologically dependent on a habit-forming substance
The problem with Oxycotin is that you become tolerant. As was stated above by the person suffering from Fybromialgia, their body has become used to the drug and therefore is not as effective as it was when they first started taking it.
a little lesson on how drugs work, I have taken a paragraph from an online encylcopeadia so you don’t think I’m pulling this out of my ass, however this is something I have studied in school as well as on my own;
“Drugs generally work by interacting with receptors on the surface of cells or enzymes (which regulate the rate of chemical reactions) within cells. Receptor and enzyme molecules have a specific three-dimensional structure which allows only substances that fit precisely to attach to it. This is often referred to as a lock and key model.
Most drugs work because by binding to the target receptor site, they can either block the physiological function of the protein, or mimics it’s effect.” (http://www.edinformatics.com/interactive_molecules/how_drugs_work.htm)
through this action your body slows down the production of the enzyme or hormone that normally is used by the cell because there’s an abundance of it from the drug one is taking. Because the body has slowed down production, you need to continue to take the drug to make up for the loss and bring your levels back or to keep up the work done by the drug. This is dependency. The tolerance comes the fact that your body makes less and less of the enzyme or hormone and therefore you need more and more to balance things out. Often people complain of pain getting worse when in reality it’s your body just needing more of the drug to do the same work. Together these things become addiction!
The problem with this for people with chronic pain is that they think because there is a legitimate reason for taking the drug the addiction is not a problem, however it is. I can’t personally understand the pain a person can have with some of these chronic diseases but I can say that protecting a drug that is so habitual that is can actually be categorized with heroine and cocaine is not going to be a solution that will end well. My experience in this comes from my father. My father was involved in a serious accident in which his back was injured. Due to the injury causing him regular shoulder and back pain the doctor suggested oxycotin. As time went on my father found the drug wearing off quicker and quicker and relieving the pain less effectively. So, he asked his doctor to increase the dose to accomodate. it wasn’t long before we all noticed a change. He could not function properly because his body was getting so used to the drug that he was taking more than recommended and running out of pills before it was time to have them refilled. Now I want to make sure its understood my father was a great man. He always took us kids on adventures, spent time helping me with my homework, he was always there for us! unfortunately the oxy’s took him down a dark path. Sometimes he would pass out shortly after and at one point almost burned down our house because he was so out of it he didn’t notice a fire burning right under him(cause of the fire was a heating blanket he was laying on). Now just to emphasize this was only oxycotins, he wasn’t taking any illegal drugs. My parents split up because of his problem. At this point the drugs had become so useless as pills he began smoking and injecting the medication. On December 24th, 2007 my father was found dead due to a drug induced heart attack. when we cleaned out his apartment we had found an empty bottle for a perscription that had just been filled a few days prior.
This was a man with a chronic condition who was treated for the pain with oxycotins which ultimately led to his death. If you think your pain will be gone once you hit the right dosage, or that your tolerance will end your wrong. it will be your life before the pain goes away.
As for this new Oxyneo, I think this a said attempt to fix a problem caused by a drug like this. If heroine and cocaine are illegal so should this drug be.
Themacguy’s a fuckin junkie himself… To be this upset with somethin they’re tryin to fix all cuz ur 80′s aren’t as potent… My mom takes them for her back and claims they don’t work… So now she’s high as fuck, thinks she’s not and still in pain… But keep these things around… You may use big words and try to sound smart macguy but from wat I’m readin you popped an 80 and just went to town…
We use pain medication the same reason that we use antibiotics for an infection-I suppose this person thinks drugs for cancer kill the patient and only alternative medicine should be used to treat cancer as well. Nothing in the writer’s article is factual. OMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
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Well we all know how this is going to play out. Driving the “addiction” underground is going to solve nothing but create a whole market for this. We need to address the situation for sure. The doctors are aware and are culpable for the “halloween” candy mentality. There are and always will be legitimate needs for this but there is a huge culture around this drug that is abuse ridden. Lets address the real issue shall we?
All forms of Oxycontin should not be approved for sale. It is extremely addictive and widely abused. We now have parts of Canada where whole communities are addicted. Families ruined and lives lost. The pharmaceutical companies are driven by profit, we need the government to be proactive. The government has the authority to revoke approval. That needs to be done now.
After reading everyones opinion and thoughts I just want to say as a mother thank god or whoever that this oxycontin evil black negative energy will be finally set on fire to burn out and turn to ashes.Not sure what the outcome will be but I assure you nothing I have ever dealt with in my life has more power then that little pill.It has touched the inner core of my heart for years now even though I do not and have never taken it my heart sincerly goes out to the ones who have since I have seen what this evil pill is capable of.One thing for sure it will give at least one person a chance to survive and climb above and that is much better then nothing.My prayers have been finally answered after many painful days and nights living my life on my knees.A divine intervention is what I would call this!!!!!!
Whoever wrote this piece is an idiot. Yes, it is possible to treat many types of pain without pain medication, but there are instances where pain medication is the best and possible only way of bringing relief to chronic pain sufferers. As someone with Crohn’s Disease, I had a three year flareup where I was in so much agony that I tried to kill myself twice because the suffering was too much to handle (imagine having an extreme case of the flu every day for three years, with high fever, having to go to the bathroom 20-30 times a day, and severe, crippling pain from intestinal blockages that made me feel like someone was stabbing me in the gut). Finally, my pain was suitably managed with, first, OxyContin, and then later, Hydromorph Contin, and I was afforded some quality of life.
Finally, it was deemed necessary for me to have surgery to remove the affected parts of my intestines (1.5 m total), and then I no longer needed pain medication, so I weaned myself off. Had it not been for the pain meds, though, I most certainly would be dead from suicide. Unless you have chronic pain issues that do not respond to other treatment modalities (e.g. mindfulness meditation), you have no idea what you’re talking about. Pain is already vastly undermanaged, and withholding pain medication from those who need it because some people become addicted is completely unreasonable.
I can’t believe this is happening! I suffer on a daily basis like pain you wouldn’t believe. I feel like I’m standing in a fire.. it’s called Neuropathic pain from MS. One of the only thing that works for me is Oxycontin. I don’t get high on them I don’t feel a buzz for me it’s like taking an aspirin and the pain mostly goes away and I can put clothes on. That’s right I’m in so much pain it hurts me to wear clothes.
Thanks to all these yahoos that abuse this drug are now going to make it difficult for me to make the transition from Oxycontin to this oxyneo. What makes me more upset are the people looking in create a stigma that anyone taking this drug either sells it crushes it up and snorts it or even shoots it. Tell me something where are the police in all this? Don’t look at me as an abuser snorter or shooter! I’m a human being making his way in life the very best he can. Shame on you people that may look at me as anything less than a patient and what happens between me and my doctor should not be scrutinized in any way. Good luck to all you legitimate people who take Oxycontin I will stand back on the sidelines and await your comments!
I am a working professional that became addicted to oxycontin in my mid-40s. I am now on methadone and that has helped quite a bit. During my entire life, I have never experienced such horrific withdrawal symptoms like I did on oxy’s. Starting from shakes, diarhea, nausea, vomitting, hot/cold flashes and unable to sleep—all of this combined into lower backpain that was so unbearable….it was just searing, throbbing pain…..the pain went so deep into your bones that you would think that your bone marrow was on fire or boiling to the level of unbearable limits that you just wished for death to take you out of this pain. I would not wish this pain on my worst enemy. Folks, before you offer any type of an opinion, please make sure its an informed opinion or at least speak from experience.Please do not publish my name or email address, thank you.
As being part of this from the other side of the story, the big worry is that the changes to the formula means that the
new form of the medication wouldn’t be as effective at relieving our pain. I have chronic pain and have been on oxycontin
for 10 years now, with only one change in dosage and only recently. I have not ever abused my medication in anyway.
Before I started my treatment I wasn’t able bodied; “NOT ABLE TO FUNCTION”, and not work… With the medication
I’m an UNDERGROUND MINER!! And a DAMN GOOD ONE.. But not on them, I can’t get out of bed or even put on my socks.
I’m NOT one of those welfare junkies your thinking about. I’m a HIGHLY trained, HIGHLY skilled proffesional who
takes HIGH pride in what I do.. As soon as I think of not being able to refill my prescription I have many fears
going through my thoughts. “I’m not only in store for a boat load of pain”, but “How am I going to support my family”!
I’ve been through 2 years of PHYSIO, CHIRO AND REHAB since my accident. It’s ONLY because of the positive effects of the
mediaction that I’m not on a pension or some sort of Government Support for my family. Yes, at times it has taken some
will power to avoid taking more than I should; due to the pain on days. Those days are few in between and shortly after
I try and lower my tolerance by taking even fewer for a few days. If people would respect modern medicine for the blessings
it brings and just be adults and responsible for OUR actions as adults. It’s not Purdue’s fault, it’s the abuser’s fault, and
the people who decide to give in to temptations. Now legitamately injured and suffering people are worried about “CAN WE STILL
LIVE A RELATIVELY NORMAL LIFE ANYMORE”! That’s what those of us are worried about.. Will it be as effective, will it last as long,
will it continue to make our lives barable and allow us to be functionable, will we be able to try and enjoy our lives or will we fall
back into the dark abyss of the pain that had consumed our lives and was truly destroying us and our families.
These are the questions, these are the fears. Thank you.
@mike…It’s painfully, pardon the pun, obvious from your post that, not only are you poorly educated and resentful of anyone that actually has a decent education and can express themselves in a succinct manner, but you are also completely ignorant of the facts of this situation. Just looking at the netspeak you use in your post is enough to discount any possibility that you have even half of a brain cell with which to formulate any type of valid opinion.
You should probably stick to playing video games online where you can talk trash to 12 year olds and make yourself feel like a big man. While you’re at it, you should probably move out of your mom’s basement. being a chronic pain patient she has enough on her plate and doesn’t need to look after you as well.
All you would need is one day living with the pain that a lot of chronic pain sufferers have and you wouldn’t be talking shyte out of the side of your face!
people do abuse prescription drugs and die because of an o.d. don’t justify it otherwise.
@Canadian Miner…Well said. My situation is pretty much the same as yours.
My big worry is the evidence already coming out of the US that has confirmed the new formula is not as effective as the old. In addition to that, our new formula contains material that are best described as a co-polymer that is added to make the pills harder to crush. I don’t know about you but I have no desire to ingest a substance that is most likely toxic over time. Oxycontin in itself is less harmful to your body, and especially your liver, than Tylenol.Add to all of this the long list of new negative side effects, and I especially am looking forward to the chronic diarrhea, and we are left in a position where we really don’t want to be taking the new formula.Unfortunately, in most cases, there is nothing that is as effective or as controllable in dosing, as the Oxycontin.
For years my doctor filled my scripts without an issue and all of a sudden, in the last month, I have been subjected to 2 urine tests, questioned why benadryl showed up on my urine test, and am now only able to get 1 months medication at a time where previously I was getting 3.It turns out that people use benadryl to potentiate their Oxycontin. Guess what? I have never taken benadryl in my life yet it showed up on my urine test and I was hauled in to see my doctor to explain. It turns out that Gravol shows up the same in a urine sample as benadryl.Still, I had to justify why something that is an OTC medication showed up in my urine sample. That is ridiculous.
For a bit of a comparison, I also take Adderal because of the fatigue problem with Fibromyalgia. For anyone that doesn’t know, Adderal is basically Speed/Amphetamine. My doctor has no problem giving me 3 months of it at a time and never questions my use of it.It becomes pretty obvious at that point that the government is putting the screws to doctors over Oxy and Oxy alone.
This is a very sad state of affairs indeed that, because of a very small minority of abusers, the rest of us are being punished unfairly.
I am 42 years old, I had a severe lower back injury while on the job at 19 years of age. Now I have been on almost every painkiller/muscle relaxants, narcotics of several different types, tranquilizers, sleeping pills, anti-inflammatory, Valium, and anti-depressants…all at the the same time in an attempt to find the right drugs and doses to help me remain mobile, sleep etc. In 1997 was introduced to Oxycontin. I can honestly say that this medication took away 80-85% of my pain followed up by a break through medication,(also narcotic), that took away even more of my severe and debilitating pain. I have been on these medications for going on 15 years. Over these years I have tried other powerful and just as dangerous narcotics but received nowhere near the relief from my pain like Oxycontin has provided. Over the years I have developed a tolerance to the drug needing periodic increases, but with proper support and an aggressive pain management program, I have been able to keep my doses at the same levels for about 7 years now. Oxycontin is not to blame here. It is the prescription for low or moderate pain given to patients by doctors who are suppose to be prescribing these meds. to people who have long term severe pain, cancer patients or terminally ill people who are in such pain. I have no objection to OxyNeo as long as it provides me the same relief as the Oxycontin. As for people who do the drug by injection, it has been my observation that no matter how the drug is packaged, these users will always find a way to inject any medication. Now it would be unfair to just blame doctors for problems with Oxycontin. Canada’s National Registry of narcotic prescription medications was a long time coming but gave hope to people like myself that abused narcotics, such as people selling these on the black market would be weeded out, causing a severe reduction in any abused narcotic causing death to our adolescent community. In closing I would have to say that I know there are people like me who benefit greatly from Oxycontin and these people, myself included find it ridiculous that all the good that this drug can provide for severe pain, has been attributed to deaths, that may have nothing to do with those deaths or how much the media is responsible for blowing Oxycontin related deaths out of proportion. No matter what narcotic is being used for serious pain there is always potential for abuse and getting rid of them is only an answer to misguided and misinformed citizens of this great country.
Purdue loses its monopoly this year or early 13, then generacs will be available for those not covered by insurance companies. I will not lower myself to make negative comments.I also have fibro, and 18 titaniun screws and 12 rods in my back, 4 in my neck, face reconstruction, knee surgeries(6)and have been on Oxycontin for 10 years on and off-pain is something you cannot describe when you have searing burning in your body,unable to walk without searing burning aches in your back and legs,sciatic nerves pinched,all this cause some drunk tboned me,I can function on the controlled amount I am on,and I get monthly injections(nerve blocks)and epiderals,I do not abuse have never and quality of life for me is helped by these,I also do not consider myself an addict,as I am switched to other opiate pills every year,my body does not build a tolerance.
LE, I’m sorry to hear about your fathers death. It is understandable for you to be angry. I would disagree with you that there is no difference between dependence/tolerance and addiction.
People who are addicted, and are using the med for a psychological benefit rather than pain control, exhibit some specific behaviors.
1. Taking more medication than prescribed
2. Ingest the medication other than how it was prescribed, ie snort, inject
3. Require early refills
4. Receive prescriptions from multiple sources
5. Buy their medications illegally
6. Sell their meds
These are the markers of prescription drug addiction. Although my body may be physically dependent, ie I would experience withdrawal, that does not make me an addict. If I were to be weaned off my meds by my doctor I would not go to the street to buy them. What would change? I would suffer. I wouldnt be able to function. My business and those that depend on me would suffer. Insted of being a productive, tax paying citizen, I would become a burden to everyone. I would be dependent and it would be unbearable. There are many meds that cannot be stopped abruptly because the body is dependent. Would you say someone was addicted to their thyroid meds?
I’m sorry that some abuse this drug even when it is prescribed. Thats not my fault. It’s the fault of those prescribing for not monitoring for the tell tale signs listed above. Anyone can look for these signs.
Doctors are not well educated, in their basic training, on managing any kind of pain. I’ve often heard of people becoming addicted after receiving this med post operatively. These meds are not for acute pain and that issue needs to be addressed.
Chronic pain sufferers are not the problem when it comes to OxyContin. Everyone should focus on where the real problems lie
1. Street sellers/users
2. Those who don’t take their meds as prescribed
3. Doctors who prescribe for acute pain or any doctor that doesn’t have the common sense to wean their patients off, leading to withdrawal and patients seeking other ways to receive meds leading to addiction.
You cannot throw they baby out with the bath water and I should not be persecuted for the crimes of others.
FOR the one that says why do these drugs exist why dont you develop a z pound tumor in your abdomine go to doctors that dont belive you for aa year and haalf take a year and half to treat you with stager 5 chemo for a 17 hour surgery… and then you can retract that statement and punch yourself in the face….
I can only thank God that I have never had to take any of these medications. Hitting the supply side of drugs to prevent abuse is not be best solution out there, but what can you do?
Smart idea as****…. canning OxyContin. Why not do instead what they made me do in Vancouver, which was made me go EVERY SINGLE WEEK DAY to the clinic pharmacy to pick up MY DAILY SUPPLY of OxyContin. I COULD NOT abuse my OxyContin then even if I wanted too, because I only had ONE DAY SUPPLY available at one time. Except for the weekends, you got THREE DAYS SUPPLY because the clinic was closed on weekends. That seemed to work just fine. It’s really hard to abuse something that you only get a few every day of…RIGHT? They MAKE Methadone users go every day for their “FIX” and they say “IT WORKS”. Ever take fukin’ Methadone? Try it and see how you like sleeping 18 to 20 hours a day, then gain 100lbs. That’s what Methadone did to me anyway. Whatever,…WHO’S GOT THE GOOD DOWN TODAY? That beige coloured killer Heroin? I might just be doing that again. Funding the TALIBAN…GREAT F*** IDEA STEVE HARPER or ???.
Hey joe mama, people get into trouble with a lot of different substances, even chronic eating problems: so before u say ne1 whos using opiods such as Oxycontin deserves to die,maybe think first before speaking….or typing.
Cutting off the supply of one opiod will not stop the addiction. It means addicts will HAVE to find another way to alleviate their symptoms. Seems to me like this equals those who used ox will start using smack, which will make for more IV users, overdoses and disease spread. It also means everyone’s gonna jump on the methadone wagon (which also increases OD potential). If that in turn leads to jeaporidzing the methadone program because the amount of people ruining their lives getting on it quadruples, I will be beyond pissed.
Thanks Canada for encouraging more illegal activities.
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Just want to say the fact that they cut your refills from 3 months to 1 for bendadryl (diphenhydramine) showing up is ridiculous. Gravol is dimenhydramine so I guess thats why you tested positive.
Now I’m 22 years old, I got addicted to oxycontin when I was 17. Illegally and now am on Methadone. I am clean from drugs now and currently have tapered my methadone from 140mg to 10mg a day. Let me tell you something about the “UGLY DARK SIDE” of the oxycontin abuse world.
First of all dont say doctors aren’t to blame. Your damn right they are to blame. When I used to score pills the people who would get 80mg oxys every month from their doctor were i.v users and looked like they were on death row. This never stopped the doctor from doing anything, now im talking alot of different people. Tell me if you walk into a doctors office with trackmarks and sunken in cheaks you should get prescribed 200 80mg oxies? Then go sell them to a kid like me when i was 18.
Yes I am in the wrong for what I did but oxycontin became way to available. I was paying 25$ for an 80mg and at my worst if sick enough would pay 80$. This drug ruined my life and all of my friends who are still addicted and god knows where.
Patients on oxycontin should have:
1) Drug Tests
2) Be examined regularly
3) Given no Mercy if run out of meds “early”
Doctors you aren’t stupid, give it up. Some old lady i used to get off would have needles delivered to her house with her dilaudid…i mean come on?
Now that the real oxies are gone I feel bad for people who actually need them and use them proper, I couldnt imagine chronic pain + withdrawling from a weaker version. I suggest switching yourself to methadone (it is actually an incredible painkiller, not because your a junky)
Fact is this will bring heroin into large canadians cities where its really not available that much. They made their beds, now its going to get bad. Oxycontin runs rampant in edmonton, alberta. When it’s gone and teenagers can’t smoke it or snort anymore…well they will switch to morphines and dillies and along with it a needle. Heroin will become a vastly available market again. I say 1-2 years and this will happen. Once your addicted to the opiate rush and euphoria you will do whatever it takes to get it.
I myself haven’t seen an oxy in over 2 years, gladly. I wish everyone the best. But for god sakes they can’t throw them out like candy and not expect this…it was only a matter of time. what happens now will be interesting thats for sure.
I am a mother who has been through hell and back with my son..he started using oxy recreation ally and got hooked he has stolen from me robbed me and so on he lost every thing he ever had ..materialistic stuff and more..he no longer has friends he is serverly depressed he is now on the methadone program which is about the same as taking oxy only the government pays for it he sleeps for 15 hours to 20 hours every day ….Quite the life eh !! I feel for the people that actually need it…but for the one’s that got prescriptions and sold them to make a profit ..you should be ashamed of yourselves for the epidemic YOU caused I am blessed that he is no longer on oxy but now I and he have to deal with the methadone addiction when does it ever end??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS A JOKE, THERE ARE Tests that measure how many nanograms per ml of narcotic in your blood, if you get 3 oxys per day your ng rating per ml shows if you are taking them or not,,precribe it test it and those not complying are the ones who create the problem, dump them to methadone and be done with the problem do it right or dont do it all\
WAKE UP PROFESSIONALS YOU CREATED THE TEST USE IT
ok i found out today that somebody in my community got there hands on one of these oxyneos he didnt know it was a oxyneo so he goes and shoots it up now hes in the hospital it clogged something in his brain
but my point is it looks exactly the same as a oxycontin dont u think he they would make it look differnt so they would know if its a oxyneo and therefor just leave it or swallow it like its supposed to be
This affects no one except ODSP & welfare recips. If you are fortunate enough to have the money to pay for your Rx’s you will not be affected by the Exceptional Access Program.There are lawyer junkies,Dr.junkies who will still be getting Oxyneo. The new drug stops injection use of the drug,what about the ones who smoke it? It will solve nothing. Dr’s need to be looking at blood drug levels in patients who they are giving it to.I mean they come from somewhere & they have to start at the source.
This is the problem deaths do occur, are there tests showing deaths r blamed by something, yes. Are there autopsys cover ups, yes. What do We do? What does the govt do and what the people do. First is first. Drugs will be used forever and no one needs to suffer. a drug user is a drug user, a bully is a bully, a illness is a illness, a hypocrit is a hypocrit, so on. One thing that everyone needs is gravity. We need to be picked up with anything that helps, and excuses can go only so far. Everyone will die of some cause and we the people need to find that something whatever that is, to help us throught it and to speak out. Maybe some we will be heard.
Someday we will be heard. NO ONE needs to suffer.
Anyone who abuses oxy is doomed, with that said, I’ve been on the same dosage for 5 years because of chronic pain. No increase at all of the dose. I have a professional job, and if the oxy is removed from the market chances are I won’t be able to work, actually I know I won’t be able to because without it I can barely get out of bed to reach for a cup of water.
Pull it and watch the unemployment rate go up.you are only hurting legitimate pain patients by pulling this.
I know people wo have been addicted to oxy, however they were all previous drug users.
If this actually goes through, canada will be making a painful situation for people much worse. Why don’t they just regulate it better. I already have to show government I’d every time I pick mie up eventhough the pharmasist says hi to me by my name before I even get to the counter. Maybe stop allowing dentists to perscribe it….
well im an addict…a “welfare junkie”…i was given oxycontin by my doctor at first for pain..10mg twice a day…it slowly went up to 5-20mg tabs a day and by the end of the summer i was up to takin 12 20s a day by the end of the year i was taking 10 40s a day…when i went into rehab i was taking 12 80s a day…sometimes 11 sometimes 15….very very addictive stuff..after two times around at CAMH in toronto i can say that ill never use these pills again..its not worth the shit u go thru being addicted..i feel so bad for the peopl that need this drug to cope with life…people like my ex who had fibromyalgia or like someppl on here that have MS….they should really only be giving oxyneo to patients that are just starting out but if uve been on oxycontin for years and u have legit pain, they should continue to give it to you….oxyneo should just be the drug they give new patients…junkies are going to be going crazy that they cant get oxycontin anymore and what will they tunr to? crime? or what i said HEROIN….watch the increase of heroin users now that oxycontin is gone …sad sad stuff
hey underground1322….im in the same boat as you man and id love to chat with you..im 25 got addicted at 17 and started getting scripts of 200 80s every two weeks…doctors are to blame for this mess….my doctor cut me off three weeks before i was to go into detox and i had no choice but to go on meth…im on 57mg of meth down from 100mgs…may will be my 2nd year on this shit and i want off…i hope u read this cuz id like to chat and see how ur doing with ur recovery….add me to facebook if u have it Nick Delaney or email me at njdelaney@yahoo.com
in the 1970′s pain killers consisted of street drugs it was determined that people would be safer under the supervision of a doctor the clock is now ticking backwards and people will return to street drugs and alcohol to kill pain. with drunk driving and drugs that will prove to be very unsafe for consumption there is got to be a better way keeping in mind that disabled people still need their medications.
Sure OxyContin is bad for the people that abuse it but the drug store doesn’t tell people to take or to take enought to overdos on them the people that need them should not be cut off if the junkies take them its not the people that are sick falt so stop blaming the sick people that are in need if the junkies take they know what the results are by taking too many at once
Given the rationale used by most of the anti oxy comments here I expect the contributors are also in favour of banning: alcohol, cars, and (yes it has to be said) guns; all of which cause many many more fatalities than any form of opioid medication.
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I have just started taking the oxyneo have been on oxycontin for some time because of a back fusion and bad knee replacement. the oxyneo seems to be working at a strong rate than the other it releases slowly over many hours as the oxycontin only lasted 3-4 hrs this is way different , I took one 40mg. pill and it just knocked me off my feet. the trouble is if you think it isn’t working and take something else to soon you will knock yourself out. please be very careful
First of all…joe mama, wishing death upon any body just because they are not taking meds properly is none of your buisness…so keep your piehole shut…second this new OxyContin(oxy-neo) is gonna do one of two things…make junkies use different narcs or put them 6 feet under! What ever way you look at it everyone is getting screwed…the physically dependant, the addict the junkie, the oxyneo will not be covered under any drug plan, the price of scripted pills on the street will go way up, and the ones who choose to shove this shit in their arm will see how quick it is to die! So we all lose…but i bet any money some mob-scientist will think of something else to put on the market, that will be just as addictive and we will be back at square one..” the OxyContin Epidemic” And all this will be because of the bright idea someone had to put a new drug out there! This is not going to change anything..so all in all this was a stupid idea on the gov’ts part…way to go you friggin idiots…you just started a war!!!!
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If you don’t know what you are talking about you shouldn’t comment on these kinds of sites. To say that you should only get this drug if you are dying or that if you abuse them you deserve to die is ridiculous and a waste of my time reading. I am recovering from cancer and had horrible pain. I started with percocets and they didn’t help the pain so my doctor prescribed oxy. 30 mg 2 2x per day originally 3 x 2. Now I am onxneo and slowly trying to wean myself off. I wish I had never had to take them but I did and I never abused them, never took more than I was suppose to. I wouldn’t have been able to handle the pain without them and this article is ridiculous. There are people like me who need them, take them as prescribed and then stop taking them. I have myself now down to 15mg 2 twice a day and hopefully in the next couple weeks I will go down to 1 twice a day until I can stop. My cancer was oral and I have had my stomach tube removed and without them I would not be able to eat. I have lost 155 lbs so far and I don’t have much more to lose so there is a need for this drug and it is not a joy ride for some of us!!!
If you are an addict, you will abuse any pills you can get your hands on. Deaths? Sure, if some teenager takes an 80mg pill thinking it’s a hit of E, bye bye because they just took 16 percs and without a tolerance? You don’t stand a chance. Oxycodone isn’t even that strong a pain med, it’s just getting around the sustained release that has people snorting them and shooting them. Just think about this when you hear of an oxy overdose or any pill overdose. People always combine drugs. I’ve met a lot of people who drink that don’t do drugs but I’ve never met anyone who does drugs that doesn’t drink
I have beentaking oxy since feb 2007 i broke my sternum in a car accident. i had surgery and wea left with severe nerver damage and a hpter tension keloid scar that is very very painfull. its full of scar tissue. my doctor prescribes me 60 5mg a month i take 2 in 24 hours and nerve damage medication. iam all for he change to the new neo oxy. iam not addicted to it i dont abuse it and only take it at night or in the middle of the night. this is only so i can sleep and not be woke up with pain. during the day i will not take this drug i have children and need to drive during the day. i have no symtoms of any withdrawels if i have skipped one at night. i have also tried trmadol which works just as good if not better for pain. if this is taken off the market iam will certainly try the neo oxy which i think is just going to be what tramadol is and that is whay is used in the usa now.If s patient is not willing to try it then i believe they are just addicted and dont want to change. this drug should still be made available for those with cancer and those who are terminal. while taking these meds i got pregant and right away stopped oxycotin and switched to safer drug that does not harm the baby. i tool tylenol 3. my baby was born perfect and no signs of drugs in her system when she was born. she was also a month early and 6 11 lbs. that is very heathly for an early baby. i was in alot of pain while pregnant because t3 didnt work all that well. i was in bed alot in pain. after i had my baby i started hot yoga and went back on oxy 2 times a day. yoga helps alot for pain. you dont always need a painkiller when you are in paid. some days i need to take it because at night i dont like not sleeping from the pain in my chest. i would say its good its coming off the market and iam happy to try the new pain reliever they will have now.
I was the victim of a hit and run acident and have chonic back injuries.I saw 5 surgeons and gave me 5% chance that i would walk after surgery.i was given oxicoton for pain relief so i could walk.Due to the junkies my doctor has put me on the oxyneo pills. HOPING they will work as well.PS put the junkies on blockers leave the people who realy take them as prescribed alone….
Am i the only one having a hell of a time with this new oxy neo i find they dont work as well and tend to make me feel sick to my tummy.And when was this new mixture tested on us humans?????